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Brasse wrote:Alright, here's an idea I had which I thought was kinda amusing:

Ideas for a title: Love-ism, Hearts & Minds, Politicaru Shoujo

I had something lighthearted in mind where there protagonist can interact with and eventually date anthropomorphic prominent political ideologies, whose personalities and quirks are determined by the spirit of the ideologies themselves, how they are perceived by the public, the advantages and problems of the various movements who held these views and the mindset and personalities of influential thinkers within their respective tradition. There would be six girls in total, living together three-by-three in two rooms; the Left and the Right room, respectively.

Conservative-tan: She comes from a rich family and has tastes to match. While she can act classy if required to, her personality is on the brash and somewhat dominating side, with an explosive temper to boot. She likes "common sense"-approaches to problems and is a down-to-earth person in general, but has a tendency to use certain words considered offensive by some minorities (whose reaction she dismisses as "political correctness gone mad"). She does not cope well with sudden change and prefers peace and quiet around her with clear routines. As a genuinely caring and supportive person, she contributes a lot to charity and encourages others to do the same. Her hobbies include going to church, visiting her families country manor on the weekends, baking cupcakes and playing golf (there has to be a scene where the protagonist follows her around the course as her caddy). She cannot stand Marxist-tan. Studies International Relations.

Ideologies: Liberal Conservatism, Christian Democracy, National Liberalism.

Libertarian-tan: Owns a small bookstore specializing in student literature with Syndicalist-tan as her only employee. She is somewhat eccentric, usually serious and values her autonomy immensely; she hates it when people patronize her (especially Social Liberal-tan). She has a "mind your own business" approach to most things and tends to be a bit egoistic. Although she has a very admirable work ethic, she struggles to cope with managing both her university studies (macro-economics, masters level) and the bookstore at the same time. An avid marijuana user, she grows some of her own in a secluded room in the shop. Likes to browse various internet communities and online gunshops - her dream is to one day own a real FN FAL battle rifle - as well as reading (her favourite authors are Robert Nozick and Ayn Rand). Does most of the cooking in the right-wing dorm. Attends a secret Objectivist society. Has a very elaborate plan of what to do in case of a zombie invasion. Natural ditz. Her route mostly focuses on being a business owner and how it relates to the state.

Ideologies: Right-wing Libertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Classical Liberalism.

Social Liberal-tan: SL-tan hates genuine conflicts - being in the middle of the political spectrum, she usually assumes a position of negotiator and diplomat between two quarreling parties. She will, however, refuse to distance herself from her belief in human rationality and their basic rights and likes a friendly discussion. Can cooperate with most people and prefers to emphasize similarities rather then differences. Avid fan of John Rawls and likes to debate with Libertarian-tan on the topics of positive versus negative liberty. She is currently a student of medicine. Has a highly developed sense of intuition. Her disdain for conflicts leads to her frequently being called a coward by others. Although she is more or less universally liked, she is specially good friends with Socialist-tan, whom she likes to go mountain climbing with. Her hobbies include art, watching TV (her favorite programs are "Yes, Minister" and "The Thick Of It"), climbing and arguing with Libertarian-tan. Secretary of the student council.

Ideologies: Social Liberalism, Utilitarian Liberalism

Socialist-tan: An easy-going gal who studies journalism. She is a fierce protector of the environment and corporate exploitation of the poor. A skilled cook, her trademark vegetarian dishes are loved by all. Strongly dislikes inequality and will go great lengths to see that procedures are fair and square. Spends her time either climbing with SL-tan, hanging up posters and handing out leaflets from one of the many humanitarian and environmentalist organizations she's a member of, cooking or hanging at a local café with a cup of Fairtrade-marked tea. She tends to trust authorities and experts more than her own intuitions, especially when it comes to matters where money is involved. If she notices a crack in her debate adversary's reasoning or inconsistencies in her interviewees' accounts she is quick to pressure them. She is a skilled planner, usually taking care of logistics during the many demonstrations and manifestations she is involved in, always ensuring that food and drink come cheap, Eco-friendly and vegetarian. Grows her own herbs in the Leftist room kitchen window.

Ideologies: Social Democracy, Environmentalism, State Socialism

Marxist-tan: Analytical, cold, bossy and calculating. Likes to divide people into groups and classes. A very bright law student, but tends to dislike and demean people who are less intelligent and knowledgeable then her. Difficult to acquire her genuine respect, but if one manages to do so he or she will have a loyal and trustworthy friend. Is sensitive when it comes to her past as she is not really sure of what to think of it. Despises Conservative-tan. Tends to think in terms of "the end justifies the means". Bitter with the patriarchy and the chauvinist members of the Communist Party, of which she is a member. (In the Good ending she'll confront them). Has refined touch to her, but can let loose among those she respects. Has very high standards for herself and constantly re-evaluates the different schools of Marxist thought that has emerged during the last hundred years. One of the most difficult routes in terms of schooling as the more theoretical aspects of Marxism will be brought up and explained (i.e dialectic materialism, theory of alienation, labor theory of value etc). She enjoys gardening, reading difficult Marxist, post-modernist, radical feminist and post-structuralist literature and jogging.

Ideologies: Orthodox Marxism, Marxist-Leninism, Trotskyism, Left-Feminism

Syndicalist-tan: A impulsive, bubbly and energetic girl who likes to provoke and tease people. Works at Libertarian-tan's store and tries to persuade her to reorganize it into a cooperative (which happens in her good ending). Well-versed around labor-oriented questions and member of the local revolutionary trade union. Loves personal freedom immensely and believes that everyone should be able to choose the economic system of their liking. "Expropriates" books from the store and hands them to the local library instead sometimes, driving Libertarian-tan insane. She plays bass in a local punk-band that preforms regularly at a small hipster-bar. Loves V for Vendetta. Likes Marxist-tan (even though Marxist-tan used to be mean to her in the past) but finds her bossy attitude overbearing sometimes. Cares little about the opinion of others. Can quote Michael Bakunin and Max Stirner from memory. Often starts projects that end up being abandoned half-way though completion. A student of biology. Feeds a wild cat with black fur that comes by every evening.
Wears wooden clogs.

Ideologies: (Anarcho-)Syndicalism, Social Anarchism, Libertarian Marxism/Socialism



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Illegalist-tan:
Syndicalist-tans restless sister, who visits the bookstore in search of esoteric titles. Very talented at making home-made bombs. Gets most of her food from dumpsters and attacks farms and stores that sell furs at nights. Aims to destroy society.

Ideologies: Illegalism, Insurrectionism, Anarcho-Primitivism

Nazi-tan: Fiercely aggressive, proud and authoritarian. Used to be a member of the student council before she was kicked out. Spends most of her time on the internet, arguing with people on the commentary section on youtube videos. Aims to conquer the world and kill all "weaklings".

Ideologies: Nazism, Fascism

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Marxist-tan sounds like my kind of girl, though I'd be closer to Syndicalist-tan on the political spectrum. I grew up with an avowed Marxist for a brother, so I'm already well aware of the finer points of Marxist ideology, but we could still find new things to talk about in post-structuralist literature (which I find interesting as fuck).
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Zarich wrote:I was thinking of religious girl at one point (Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Neo-Pagan/wiccan or Classical Pagan) but the political one seems pretty cool. Even if it did take momentum I could take time from writing all five routes from my project and do Conservative-tan path, coming from a conservative family, al be it, Middle Class.
.... Why? What, would you be dating deities, because in that case Lucifer was not nearly as big a dick as god was. Though my preference would be a rule 63'd Prometheus.
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Oh, by the way, those libertarians whom I know on a personal level are more than willing to admit that they consider Ayn Rand a terrible author. Also, is Libertarian-tan poor? FN-FALs are only a couple thousand dollars where I come from, and the registration process isn't that expensive.
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Snuffkin wrote:Oh, by the way, those libertarians whom I know on a personal level are more than willing to admit that they consider Ayn Rand a terrible author. Also, is Libertarian-tan poor? FN-FALs are only a couple thousand dollars where I come from, and the registration process isn't that expensive.
As for Rand, I have a different experience with libertarians and fondness for her - a good deal of the MPs representing parties with libertarian tendencies have expressed sympathies for Rand and several libertarians I know from university and the internet love her. Anyway, you have a point. I guess the idea of a secret Objectivist club with hooded members barking Randian dogma got the better of me.

What part of post-structuralist lit appeals to you, btw? (We could always continue on PM if it goes OT to a great degree.)
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Well, Heidegger's talk about the relativity of time and the potentially infinite space that exists with any moment has kind of stuck with me, and his development of existentilism was great. I haven't yet read much of Schoupenhaur, but what little I have I would be inclined to agree with.

It's weird, I generally consider myself a humanist when it comes to issues of ethics, and yet these philosophies and seemingly trivializing relativism always holds a certain sway when I actually try and analyze such things.
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Snuffkin wrote:Well, Heidegger's talk about the relativity of time and the potentially infinite space that exists with any moment has kind of stuck with me, and his development of existentilism was great. I haven't yet read much of Schoupenhaur, but what little I have I would be inclined to agree with.

It's weird, I generally consider myself a humanist when it comes to issues of ethics, and yet these philosophies and seemingly trivializing relativism always holds a certain sway when I actually try and analyze such things.
What is wierd about that?
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Snuffkin wrote:Well, Heidegger's talk about the relativity of time and the potentially infinite space that exists with any moment has kind of stuck with me, and his development of existentilism was great. I haven't yet read much of Schoupenhaur, but what little I have I would be inclined to agree with.
None of those are post-structuralists. Continental balderdash all the same, in any case.
Snuffkin wrote: It's weird, I generally consider myself a humanist when it comes to issues of ethics, and yet these philosophies and seemingly trivializing relativism always holds a certain sway when I actually try and analyse such things.
Hedonistic utilitarianism representin', yo. The almost dogmatic ethical relativism a lot of people seem to hold gets on my nerves frequently.

What about a VN like Politicaru Shoujo, but with normative ethics (and a sequel with metaethics) instead of politics? You'd have Utilitari-tan H (eldest sister in the Utilitari-tan family) who'd constantly try to nick your stuff to sell off to Amnesty and the Red Cross, Deonthologist-san who refuses to jaywalk, see the consequences of her actions as relevant and tell white lies, Virtue-sama who spends most of her time reading self-improvement books with her sisters and her Greek grandfather and rarely answers questions in a straight manner, Egoist-tan who, well, has commitment issues, the human doormat Altruist-tan, the bureaucratic Social Contract-tan, the batshit insane Nihilist-tan and the apathetic Relativist-tan. GOTY fo' sho'.
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Hell, I'd play it. Seems to me that the nihilist would just be ridiculously apathetic, the crazy one would be the antinatilist.
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What would existentialist-tan be like? Not very bitchy I should hope. Sorry for my ignorance when it comes to philisophical schools outside existentialism and the occasional utilitarian no-brainers.
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I would probably read that
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(continuing the sentence on the thread topic)
...then I would write a game about

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...and a nukige type of VN of that. Obviously.

tags: Dragon Protagonist Death of Heroine Horror Gore Guro High Sexual Content Only Virgin Heroines Nukige Monster Rape

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Note to Whiic:

Please put NSFW tags on stuff like that :/

Also, w t f?
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I've used the Visual Novel Random Idea Generator a few times, but the results can be a little too random. (Four tags for protag? Tags from clearly different genres? No way to filter NSFW?) So yeah, now that I've seen that dinosaur x girls image, let me see if I can use some VNDB tags for an idea that's a little less crazy:

* Memory Alteration
* Player as a Character
* Virtual Reality
* Group of Friends
* Slice of Life Drama

Essentially a rewrite of "We Can Remember It for You Wholesale." You, as the main character, are looking for an escape from your boring life. You meet a group of people who are experimenting with VR and alternate worlds. Are they telling the truth? How much can you trust them? Are you going to be their ally or their enemy?

Off-topic: for those who think up crack-tastic fangames, Tumblr has some posts that might get you thinking.

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I have an idea of Monster girl romance VN.

I was going for the (old as fuck) school concept and with a quite modern society.
in a world where most things have been made to suit humans, living as monster would be quite... difficult.

There has been several ideas until now.
A lizard girl, one of the specie who adapt well to human life.
A werewolf, with the problem that her beast personality make her unable to live among humans when full moon is up. (she still transform at night but she's much more humans)
A dullahan, more oriented into fighting rather than studying. (wrestling club would suit her quite well, but an uppercut will surely not be a good tactic against her)
A Kappa, as an amphibian specie it needs water much more than normal humans.
Another character idea is a sort of chimera, who has insectoid features and supernatural abilities but cannot live in daylight. (it'd take too long to explain without a picture)

for side Character I had the idea of a Crow Tengu who would work like the monsterpedia of monstergirl quest. but instead of concentrating only on monsters he would give more informations toward the characters themselves or the setting. (btw the monsterpedia would be nice with chibi versions of the character :3 )
Said Tengu would be in game as a room-mate, whether he becomes your best friend or an enemy will depend on who the MC chose as love interest.

Teachers would be mainly humans but security could be mainly monsters (as the students represent a majority of yokai of all sort that seems the most intelligent idea). Though I don't want to discriminate so if I get a good idea of monster teacher... as long as it doesn't become a love interest.

the game would also have the MC being transformed into a monster depending on the love interest. whether it is willingly, or unknown to him is up to debate, but I don't want him to be transformed into a monster without his consent. (actually only two love interests could be candidate to that kind of scenario)

comical ending idea would be the main character waking up in a big hangover and discovering that he got married to an Oni that looks barely legal and that her family does not approve divorce.

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^ I approve!
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I like that idea. A lot! :O
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Carighan wrote:I like that idea. A lot! :O
*brofist*
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heh, if I have enough volunteers to try such fun quest I'll gladly accept to make it real.

I might show what I did as character sketches.

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Hagon wrote:heh, if I have enough volunteers to try such fun quest I'll gladly accept to make it real.
I volunteer!!
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monster girl VNs... Well, there's Monster Girl Quest, for one.

And for my personal idea, just because it'd be instantly popular, something about LoL.
My idea would be somewhere along the lines of:

Main character is a professional gamer, who has recently won the world championships with his team. After this happens, the character is asked whether or not he would like to hone his abilities further. *insert cheesy alternate universe thing here*

The alternate universe is where the champions are real, and everyone fights in war games, and where the main character is set to learn new tactics and techniques, but at the same time teaches other champions things he's learned *insert deus ex machina as for why he somehow knows more than them*

The first choice is either what position he plays, or which lane, and this decision will determine which popular waifu is chosen.

I don't really know why, I just thought that this would be a hilarious way to troll my classmates, all of whom are obsessed with the damn game, and I have no idea why.

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