Adult Content?

[Anxa]

Will Missing Stars be including adult content?

Wow, I know how to read a faq. Anyway, the rest of my post still stands:

If so, will it be including an option to disable it?

I can't say I have a particularly strong opinion either way, but at least with KS (the only VN I've ever really played), I felt like some of the sex was perfectly at home with the story, but at other points it came across as forced and obviously there for the viewer without contributing much to the narrative.

Also, if you can't say either way that's fine too, I'm completely floored by the artwork you folks have posted so far. I just hope you keep most of it close to the chest; I like to be surprised by the final product! Good luck!

[Smokey]

We're considering it.

Thank you for your interest and concern~

[MDV]

but at other points it came across as forced and obviously there for the viewer without contributing much to the narrative.

Can you tell which scenes you mean? Most of the sex scenes in KS came across as failed attemps at 'more than just porn' scenes to me. The only pleasing sex scene was Lilly's.

[Anxa]

Hanako's route seemed meaningful enough to me. She was reaching out to Hisao for fear of losing him, but in a way that didn't really work for her given the context of her own happiness. It wasn't bad sex, but it was clearly not comfortable for her, and Hisao (belatedly, at least) realizes how stupid sleeping with her was. It seemed more like a real story than an excuse to have porn.

Rin and Shizune didn't really make any sense to me either though. Emi at least followed a recognizable trajectory (and the sex wasn't even a factor in the most compelling parts of that otherwise very good story) of sexual experimentation, although it never felt particularly compelling.

It's all incredibly subjective though, so my experience could differ greatly from other people who might take more (or less) away from the inclusion of 'adult' material.

[Wyges]

Hanako's route seemed meaningful enough to me. She was reaching out to Hisao for fear of losing him, but in a way that didn't really work for her given the context of her own happiness. It wasn't bad sex, but it was clearly not comfortable for her, and Hisao (belatedly, at least) realizes how stupid sleeping with her was. It seemed more like a real story than an excuse to have porn.

Rin and Shizune didn't really make any sense to me either though. Emi at least followed a recognizable trajectory (and the sex wasn't even a factor in the most compelling parts of that otherwise very good story) of sexual experimentation, although it never felt particularly compelling.

It's all incredibly subjective though, so my experience could differ greatly from other people who might take more (or less) away from the inclusion of 'adult' material.

For me, Hanako's sex scene was very painful, but it really had a deeper and meaningful idea behind it. You could clearly see that it wasn't very pleasant to Hanako and that she was pushing herself to do that. But, thankfully, in the end everything worked out.

But, all in all, it's the hardest part of the whole route/story to make the sex scenes to be tasteful and work with the whole plot, so these sex scenes will require the most of writer's attention and skill. Do your best, writers! *high five*

[Arivien]

Can you tell which scenes you mean? Most of the sex scenes in KS came across as failed attemps at 'more than just porn' scenes to me. The only pleasing sex scene was Lilly's.

Honestly, I think all the sex scenes were pretty good. Hanako's scene felt very awkward, but that was the point. The one with Lilly and the blindfold was to get Hisao to take control for once.

All in all, I think they were done very tastefully.

[scopedknife]

kosherbacon is a writer on this project. If there were no adult content, I would honestly be shocked. Expect anything.

[Smokey]

Expect anything.

Expect the unexpected.

[Malkav]

So if we were to expect traffic cone play, then we can't honestly expect it? Or would that then invalidate the original expectation, thus making it fair play once again? Oh, bubbletrumps, I just want to see some traffic cones somewhere in this game! <3

In all seriousness, though: KS was relatively 'vanilla' in its portrayal of sexuality. It wasn't at all bad, but... I dunno, for some reason, I expected Rin's scenes to be a little more eccentric, in line with her personality. Perhaps one of the girls here will have something "fresh and exciting", in that regard?

[Mr Immortal]

In all seriousness, though: KS was relatively 'vanilla' in its portrayal of sexuality. It wasn't at all bad, but... I dunno, for some reason, I expected Rin's scenes to be a little more eccentric, in line with her personality. Perhaps one of the girls here will have something "fresh and exciting", in that regard?

So did I I thought Rin would want Hisao to do so kinky experimentation. Instead we got Emi's anal scene, which more than made up for it in my book However, something "fresh and exciting" as you put it, would be nice to see. I'm not expecting an intense BDSM session with Isolda and her Eel or anything, but something pulling away from vanilla would be good to see. Sex doesn't just stay vanilla in the real world either, after all.

[Waytfm]

I'm not expecting an intense BDSM session with Isolda and her Eel or anything

So, if you're not expecting it, and according to smokey, we must expect the unexpected, does that mean there will be an intense BDSM session?

[Hamadyne]

I'm not expecting an intense BDSM session with Isolda and her Eel or anything

So, if you're not expecting it, and according to smokey, we must expect the unexpected, does that mean there will be an intense BDSM session?

:3

http://youtu.be/0AuFgZT4O-I

[splitInfinitive]

In all seriousness, though: KS was relatively 'vanilla' in its portrayal of sexuality. It wasn't at all bad, but... I dunno, for some reason, I expected Rin's scenes to be a little more eccentric, in line with her personality. Perhaps one of the girls here will have something "fresh and exciting", in that regard?

I really expected more from Rin's sex scenes. The masturbation scene was pretty fitting for her character, but the one toward the end was just odd (and not in the Rin way). She doesn't really seem to care about or fit into gender roles either way (like when she agrees with Hisao about girls' panties, and how she doesn't care about Kenji misgendering her), and I would have liked to see that aspect of her personality show more during the sex scenes. She's still my favorite tho, hands down.

I would love to see some more varied scenes in Missing Stars. And maybe a few more female orgasms rather than "oh well I came so I guess that's the end of it". You tend to think about sex differently, in my experience, when you don't fit into the mainstream. There's less pressure to uphold mainstream tropes as you're already outside the norm, and there's less identification with them since you're treated as an outsider.

[whiic]

KS indeed was pretty vanilla regarding sex scenes.
- Lillys scenes were, IMO, of the most erotic variety. Proactive in a non-offensive way. Just like Lilly herself, non-passive but considerate.
- Shizune may have been more "hardcore" with mild BDSM (though, thanks to modern feminism, it would still be considered rape) but the scenes seem very much plastered onto the story and don't seem to actually be part of it.
- Emi's scenes are just careless like her personality. Aside from lemons, they were very vanilla, and trivial. They still fit better to the story as their status of relationship was discussed outside of sex scenes. In Shizune's route, they seemed pretty much detached from the storyline outside sex scenes themselves.
- Hanako's scene fit well into the story. Like Lilly's scenes, they blended in perfectly, despite Lilly's route being most sexual and Hanako's least sexual. It's just the way it is and fit the story and that good. No fap material (unless you REALLY like fried chicken). But if I wanted fap material, reading through hours and hours of wall-of-text to get one or two softcore (or even hardcore) porn images wouldn't be the best way to get it.
- Rin's scenes: first scene was very much related to Rin's disability AND very much related to the storyline. Awkward scene. And I hope the latter one would have been as awkward (but in a more positive mood). Too much correctness in the latter scene. Just way too vanilla. Even if they wanted to avoid tactlessness though jokes like "handsfree blowjob" they could have still inserted some out-of-this-world dialogue in middle of it.

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What I hope MS will have regarding sex scenes:
- No unavoidable rape in any of the routes, especially of MC rape a heroine variety. While VN isn't actually a game but merely "choose a story", I hope there's the bare minimum amount of control at least to most ridiculous of choices. This is not only what I hope but also what I pretty much expect.
- Proactive heroines. Not necessary each route, or each scene, or whole duration of a scene, but no girls should just be a target. Even the shyest of the shy have their preferences when it comes to sex, and they will in some way surface.
- Fetishes are OK but considering readers will most likely identify with MC, it's better to leave him a blank sheet when it comes to strong fetishism. The girls can be naughtier as long as it suits their (true) character and inner selves.
- Regarding dealing with mental issues regarding sex scenes: MS probably has less to consider about being tactless. While KS devs tried to avoid catering to (already existing) fetishes that focused on a disabilities itself, by offering people with unfortunate characteristics rather than odd freaks to fap to, MS devs might have less to worry about that: I don't think there's any pre-existing fetish of fucking mental people. After all, all the characters are able to consent, and none of them are totally out-of-this-world.

I'm pretty sure the best outcome will be if H-scenes are written purely on what feels natural with zero concern of what is "appropriate", but also with zero concern of whether the game caters to everyone's fetish. If for example the game didn't have any fellatio, anal, BDSM, virgin defloration or whatever type of sex simply because non of the storywriters happened to write it into their route, then so be it. Basically I just hope the story flows naturally and H-scenes are seamlessly integrated to the storyline. Even if H-scene images could be voluntarily blanked / censored / replaced by kittens, I hope the text of the H-scenes to remain relevant to storyline, even if it meant them to be unskippable. I don't want any feeling of plastered-on H-scenes. Story comes first... even though I have nothing against detail in H-scenes.

TL;DR. What ever feels natural is good. Screw political correctness and screw fan-service.

[jarek56]

Expect anything.

Expect the unexpected.

NOW! CARDCAPTOOOOOOOOOOOORS! A MISTC ADVENTR! CARDCAPTORS!!! QUEST FOR-

SonofaBITCH. Did I just HAVE to do that!? WHY, WB27 (maryland channel I watch Cardcaptors, my first anime, on), WHY?!

[scopedknife]

I thought Rin would want Hisao to do so kinky experimentation.

I would have assumed something similar... Rin really doesn't act under the same social pressures and assumptions as other people, so for her not to consider it strange to try interesting things would seem natural to me. Also, I'm not a fetishist or anything, but she uses her feet for everything, right? So why would it be weird for her to use her feet for that? She didn't and it surprised me, not because it was expected as fanservice, but because I would have expected it from her character.

Sex doesn't just stay vanilla in the real world either, after all.

This too... they perhaps tried a bit too hard to make it inoffensive and not the prophecised crippleporno game, and made it (at least what seemed to me as) unrealistically vanilla... but then, what do I know about Japan's cultural and social views on sex? lol

[jarek56]

This too... they perhaps tried a bit too hard to make it inoffensive and not the prophecised crippleporno game, and made it (at least what seemed to me as) unrealistically vanilla... but then, what do I know about Japan's cultural and social views on sex? lol

There's safety in taking things slowly? And from what I heard, very few of the developers were from Japan. I understand some to be from Scandinavia. But I am NOT an expert on this, so I'm probably WRONG. Feel free to throw peanuts.

I figure it was just...that. They wanted to tell a story like this with rather adult content, and do so with taste and class. I found that they handled things rather well. In my opinion, at least, underdeveloped and lacking in experience in the Adult VN field. Perhaps they simply weren't as concerned about the sex in general as they were about the intimacy?

P.S. You may, sir, have the FUNNIEST avatar I have ever seen. I love beauty and the beast, secretly. And Gaston was a bitch.

[MDV]

I understand some to be from Scandinavia. But I

>Finland
>Scandinavia
Let the Scandi(boo) rage commence!

[jarek56]

I understand some to be from Scandinavia. But I

>Finland
>Scandinavia
Let the Scandi(boo) rage commence!

Oh...oh dear...what...god, I'm afraid to ask this...but...what evil have I committed in misidentifying proper geo-regional grouping and association?
While you answer this question, I will make an exit, stage left.

[Leotrak]

He's probably trolling ever so slightly - Finland is part of the European region called Scandinavia Right along with Norway, Sweden and a tiny bit of Russia...

Oh, and Denmark, can't forget Denmark >_>