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jumjummju wrote:I have Asperger's myself...I love my Asperger's. It makes me unique! :3 I guess I'm just bubbly like that. :/... but meh. Or is humor the best I can do?
Not to say you really don't have aspergers (although I am irked by just about anyone using the term "neurotypical") but aspergers is probably number 3 on the list of over-diagnosed disorders behind ADD and depression. You seem to be well-functioning enough for it to not really matter.

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jumjummju wrote:I have Asperger's myself. Though, oddly, I'm not depressed about it. Hell, I love my Asperger's. It makes me unique! :3

In fact, I can't remember a single time I was depressed. I guess I'm just bubbly like that. :/

I get sad and stuff, like when my dog died 5 years ago, just, stuff like that doesn't bother me for too long since I recover quick, I guess. That, or I just haven't had something really terrible happen to me yet. Hmm...

Unfortunately, I don't think I'm any good at cheering people up because I've never been in the situation. And the Asperger's probably doesn't help, but meh. I kinda feel like I should ask for help on this. Being around depressed people and not knowing how to help them (aside from making cynical jokes, but that only works half the time) is infuriating. Any tips? Or is humor the best I can do?
Hmmm, that is a question without a GOOD answer, it all depends on the personality of the depressed, and don't forget, many change characters when depressed enough
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Yes, the idea of venting on the forums is excellent and one of my primary reasons for creating this thread. Venting online to people you hardly know is easier to some people than venting to a friend or someone who knows you. For me, it's due to the fact that I don't like being criticized or called an attention-whore or something along the lines of that. I don't tell many people about me due to stigmas and all.

God, I need to replay KS again. Rin reminded me so much of myself, even going so far as to point out the destruction of the body/soul. When I was younger, suicide plagued the back of my thoughts, though I would never attempt it due to the irrationality of my state at the time. Self-injury however is a different subject for me. Sometimes I would cut myself on my arm so as to barely break the skin, causing minimal bleeding. It also healed in a few days and if anybody found out, I could explain it as a small scrape against a surface. It's been on and off for a long time. 

I feel like I'm speaking randomly now, and that I'm just spewing my thoughts out in no organized fashion. I think it's time for me to stop the post here. Geez, I hate when this feeling comes up but I can't do anything about it because I don't know what the hell is going on. Whenever I feel like this, I usually would vaporize a little cannabis to take the edge off a bit and spur some creative stories; lately though it's been hard to obtain it (I live in a state where it's illegal... opinions differ, please don't judge me and don't think that I am asking for any). A little love here and there from the real world would be nice too :<
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Hang in there. I've been there and may have something to say to you. Watch this post.

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Please understand that it isn't necessarily attention whoring unless that is your intention. You may have just been "collecting" emotions for quite a while. Mass emotion stresses and creates pressure.

You might read this post and feel much better and might feel a bit embarrassed for having posted in vulnerability. I've been there. I've had my fair share of actually seeking some passive form of suicide whether it was purposefully doing dangerous and reckless things or hoping to be classified as unfit and stored away. Even looking back on it, I don't regret those moments although I am a little embarrassed about the things that happened during those times. It is indeed completely irrational.

It now comes to you to ask yourself if what causes you to feel this way is something rational that you can address and resolve or whether it is irrational and unresolvable. Then you must choose a course of action to meet the needs of whichever outcome it happens to be. I was less fortunate and I cannot resolve my issue. I still don't deal with it as often as I had to in the past though, even if it means using chemical means.

You don't have to live with it. Don't be afraid to talk to your best friend. If they bail on you, they weren't a good friend.

PS: I suddenly suck at expressing myself and being more empathetic.
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Ravenous wrote:aspergers is probably number 3 on the list of over-diagnosed disorders behind ADD and depression.
The truth of this fact drives me insane.
What's worse are kids at my school who try to call themselves "special" for having ADHD. Which they likely don't. They were probably just told that when they were in 3rd grade.
Why do so many therapists think that you can diagnose an 8 year old with ADHD? Kids are naturally not going to pay attention and be hyperactive. There is no disorder, it's just part of being a damned kid.
They have no idea what being "special" really is. If they did, they wouldn't be throwing the term around so much.
Also this is what spawned the false belief that you can outgrow ADHD. No one outgrows it. If you do, it's just proof you never had ADHD to begin with.
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Zezin wrote: Also this is what spawned the false belief that you can outgrow ADHD. No one outgrows it. If you do, it's just proof you never had ADHD to begin with.
This is a misconception. While the predispositions defined by ADHD on a neurological level are ever-present, the cognitive development of an affected person can significantly mitigate the negative qualities of the condition.

The same applies for those who lie in the upper functionalities of the autism spectrum. The cognitive development can outweigh the neurological differences. Many with Aspergers, for example, manage this. Other more rare cases, such as the case of Temple Grandin, show that larger disparities of function can be overcome albeit with significant difficulty.
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Zezin wrote: Also this is what spawned the false belief that you can outgrow ADHD. No one outgrows it. If you do, it's just proof you never had ADHD to begin with.
This is a misconception. While the predispositions defined by ADHD on a neurological level are ever-present, the cognitive development of an affected person can significantly mitigate the negative qualities of the condition.

The same applies for those who lie in the upper functionalities of the autism spectrum. The cognitive development can outweigh the neurological differences. Many with Aspergers, for example, manage this. Other more rare cases, such as the case of Temple Grandin, show that larger disparities of function can be overcome albeit with significant difficulty.
I never actually said you couldn't "mitigate" it. But to discard it completely is impossible.
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Ravenous wrote:It now comes to you to ask yourself if what causes you to feel this way is something rational that you can address and resolve or whether it is irrational and unresolvable. Then you must choose a course of action to meet the needs of whichever outcome it happens to be. I was less fortunate and I cannot resolve my issue. I still don't deal with it as often as I had to in the past though, even if it means using chemical means.

You don't have to live with it. Don't be afraid to talk to your best friend. If they bail on you, they weren't a good friend.

PS: I suddenly suck at expressing myself and being more empathetic.
As I learned with many people, having a best friend to talk to is okay, but there comes a point where you yourself have to consider that your friend is only a human being. To several people, I kept venting and venting and they couldn't handle it anymore. It's not that they were a bad friend, it's that they didn't know how to deal with it. The search continues, but I think I'm slowly getting there. I've been getting CBT for a while now, and while it helps in the short run, I find that due to my indecisive mind I often revert back to my old ways. Kind of like Jekyll and Hyde (which is what few have called me before).

You can't really help someone who doesn't want to be helped I guess. I feel as if there's a part of me that wants to get "better" and another that wants to stay in a constant state of vertigo. And I try not to invoke pity or empathy either, it just happens to sound that way.

All negativity aside, I managed to strike up an intelligent conversation with someone (or was forced into it, either way, I feel slightly better). Though it may have been a one-time deal, it's probably a step up the ladder, right?
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Well, if you don't want to be happy, you won't be.

I myself have just been trying to apply myself in learning and doing new things that make me happy. I've been fairly balanced since.
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Me? Depression.

I'm fortunate not to have a severe case of it, but it definitely has had an enormous effect on how I saw the world growing up and the lens I see events through today. I'm not on medication, though I honestly wonder if I should be - not because of any self-destructive tendencies, but simply because numb is my normal state of mind. :|

Events that are wonderful or horrible and should make me feel a strong emotional reaction don't particularly phase me anymore (they most certainly did years ago), its increasingly hard for me to motivate myself and over time I've grown more distant from my friends and to an extent my family - I was staggered when my family weren't so much unsupportive as plain discouraging when I'd started exercising regularly for a few months. :(

I'm now in the awkward position where feeling "not like myself" is routine; I'd long disliked the idea of taking anti-depressants because I thought they would cause what the absence of any medication or counseling has resulted in. I haven't been to counseling since my last year of college; as I write this I'm thinking more and more that was a mistake.

If anyone else was doing what I've been, I'd doubtless tell them that depression isn't something that can be ignored without all sorts of losses to quality of life, yet this is exactly what I've accepted for myself.

I'm going to make a point of doing something about that before this week's end.
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EclipsiumRasa wrote:Me? Depression.

I'm fortunate not to have a severe case of it, but it definitely has had an enormous effect on how I saw the world growing up and the lens I see events through today. I'm not on medication, though I honestly wonder if I should be - not because of any self-destructive tendencies, but simply because numb is my normal state of mind. :|

Events that are wonderful or horrible and should make me feel a strong emotional reaction don't particularly phase me anymore (they most certainly did years ago), its increasingly hard for me to motivate myself and over time I've grown more distant from my friends and to an extent my family - I was staggered when my family weren't so much unsupportive as plain discouraging when I'd started exercising regularly for a few months. :(

I'm now in the awkward position where feeling "not like myself" is routine; I'd long disliked the idea of taking anti-depressants because I thought they would cause what the absence of any medication or counseling has resulted in. I haven't been to counseling since my last year of college; as I write this I'm thinking more and more that was a mistake.

If anyone else was doing what I've been, I'd doubtless tell them that depression isn't something that can be ignored without all sorts of losses to quality of life, yet this is exactly what I've accepted for myself.

I'm going to make a point of doing something about that before this week's end.
You kinda sound like me, the main difference being that I am not past college yet, and I wear a persona in front of my family...
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TheLastMelody wrote:
EclipsiumRasa wrote:Me? Depression.

I'm fortunate not to have a severe case of it, but it definitely has had an enormous effect on how I saw the world growing up and the lens I see events through today. I'm not on medication, though I honestly wonder if I should be - not because of any self-destructive tendencies, but simply because numb is my normal state of mind. :|

Events that are wonderful or horrible and should make me feel a strong emotional reaction don't particularly phase me anymore (they most certainly did years ago), its increasingly hard for me to motivate myself and over time I've grown more distant from my friends and to an extent my family - I was staggered when my family weren't so much unsupportive as plain discouraging when I'd started exercising regularly for a few months. :(

I'm now in the awkward position where feeling "not like myself" is routine; I'd long disliked the idea of taking anti-depressants because I thought they would cause what the absence of any medication or counseling has resulted in. I haven't been to counseling since my last year of college; as I write this I'm thinking more and more that was a mistake.

If anyone else was doing what I've been, I'd doubtless tell them that depression isn't something that can be ignored without all sorts of losses to quality of life, yet this is exactly what I've accepted for myself.

I'm going to make a point of doing something about that before this week's end.
You kinda sound like me, the main difference being that I am not past college yet, and I wear a persona in front of my family...
And I found out something, you mix the colors you want to see, thou, I don't really want any colors(or don't want to do something at all about them) so I never got around to trying it ^_^
In college I won a competition my entire class entered, was the only class rep that lasted an entire year (despite being a textbook introvert no experience with leadership positions and being terrible with names) and was given the complement of being told that "the only reason I quit doing what everyone else told me I should so I could have a chance at making my dream happen was because of what you said"; but the single biggest thing I'm proud of was finally sending a short email to the student counselor asking for an appointment and information on available mental health help.

If you're in college and you even suspect you're possibly depressed, please, please try and take that step; speak to a counselor. I eventually did it but still regret not doing it sooner. Even now as I'm looking for counseling options - which I know from first hand experience helped me enormously - I'm hesitant to actually do it. I have no idea why it is a problem, but plainly it is a problem. Even as I write this I know how farcical that sounds, but it is an actual problem.
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EclipsiumRasa wrote: In college I won a competition my entire class entered, was the only class rep that lasted an entire year (despite being a textbook introvert no experience with leadership positions and being terrible with names) and was given the complement of being told that "the only reason I quit doing what everyone else told me I should so I could have a chance at making my dream happen was because of what you said"; but the single biggest thing I'm proud of was finally sending a short email to the student counselor asking for an appointment and information on available mental health help.

If you're in college and you even suspect you're possibly depressed, please, please try and take that step; speak to a counselor. I eventually did it but still regret not doing it sooner. Even now as I'm looking for counseling options - which I know from first hand experience helped me enormously - I'm hesitant to actually do it. I have no idea why it is a problem, but plainly it is a problem. Even as I write this I know how farcical that sounds, but it is an actual problem.
Well, I don't know why I won't go, I just don't trust them, dunno why, I just don't... I can't bring myself to go to some person and talk about me...
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TheLastMelody wrote: Well, I don't know why I won't go, I just don't trust them, dunno why, I just don't... I can't bring myself to go to some person and talk about me...
And now you're exactly like me.

In the end I went but I made a short list of stuff that, if asked about, I'd give the same canned answer: "Look, I know you wouldn't ask that if it wasn't important, but I'm not comfortable talking about that right now." Politeness can be a hell of a stop sign.

As it happened I never had to use it, my counselor didn't ask me about stuff I didn't feel comfortable talking about until it became something I really felt I wanted to talk about because I was sick of carrying it around.

Mostly what I wish I realised when I was still undecided about counseling in college was how little I had to lose and how much I had to gain by going even once.
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Is it just me or are the people who love Rin the most mentally screwed up?
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Ravenous wrote:Is it just me or are the people who love Rin the most mentally screwed up?
Well, I do love Rin. Take that as you will.
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Ravenous wrote:Is it just me or are the people who love Rin the most mentally screwed up?
Well, I do love Rin. Take that as you will.
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Ravenous wrote:Is it just me or are the people who love Rin the most mentally screwed up?
I think (KS SPOILERS) loving Yuuko, loving art or loving no one has proven to have worse results. :D
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EclipsiumRasa wrote:
TheLastMelody wrote: Well, I don't know why I won't go, I just don't trust them, dunno why, I just don't... I can't bring myself to go to some person and talk about me...
And now you're exactly like me.

In the end I went but I made a short list of stuff that, if asked about, I'd give the same canned answer: "Look, I know you wouldn't ask that if it wasn't important, but I'm not comfortable talking about that right now." Politeness can be a hell of a stop sign.

As it happened I never had to use it, my counselor didn't ask me about stuff I didn't feel comfortable talking about until it became something I really felt I wanted to talk about because I was sick of carrying it around.

Mostly what I wish I realised when I was still undecided about counseling in college was how little I had to lose and how much I had to gain by going even once.
I am more like: Heck no, going to someone I don't trust and talk about very personal stuff, nope, not happening.
Ravenous wrote:Is it just me or are the people who love Rin the most mentally screwed up?
You know what? I think that depends on how you define "screwed up" ^_^
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Ravenous wrote:Is it just me or are the people who love Rin the most mentally screwed up?
There are two types (of a noticeable percentage) of people who love Rin:

Those with their head in the clouds, and those who would like others to think that's the case.

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