Musings in MMORPGs

[scopedknife]

I pose a question: I'm thinking of getting Guild Wars 2 as a Xmas present for my girlfriend. Is it a worthwhile purchase as a present for a long-time MMO player?

[ILY]

I pose a question: I'm thinking of getting Guild Wars 2 as a Xmas present for my girlfriend. Is it a worthwhile purchase as a present for a long-time MMO player?

The first was glorious and the second one improved the formula in every way. Plus the fact that there is no sub free

So yes!!!

[Zezin]

For some reason I all ways stop playing RPGs once I hit the lvl 20s, MMO or otherwise. I wonder why that is?

It's usually the 30s for me.

[scopedknife]

Thanks ILY :3

[ILY]

I made this OP for a different forum but figured the information might be useful here as well.
For those somewhat interested in Vindictus:

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[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/logo.jpg[/img] [b]What is it?[/b]---------- Vindictus is an action MMO hosted by Nexon and developed by devCAT, the team behind Mabinogi the fantasy-life MMORPG. Vindictus acts as the prequel to Mabinogi, detailing the extensive 'War of the Fomors' that humans had fought, hoping to reach the promised land (presumed to be the world of Erinn, where Mabinogi takes place in). Of course, a war isn't a war without a lot of bloodshed and brutality and being an action MMO, this game has plenty of that. Did I mention it was free? [b]Characters[/b]---------- Vindictus' characters are gender locked because they all play a respective role within the games story. However, they are mostly customizable. Females in particular. You could call this game the barbie dress up doll simulator from Korea, I suppose. Every character has two weapon types, with the second being unlocked at level 24. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Evie][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/evie.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Evie[/b] is the most versatile character in the game. Her ability to create Golems, combined with her high DPS makes her an ideal class for soloing missions. Evie is also a great support character, as she can heal her party members with Healing Corona, or buff party members with Insane Reaper or Regeneration. Staff Evie's long range spells such as Ice Spear and Blind Arrow are great for taking out dangerous enemies from a safe distance, while Ice Blast and Fire Bolt can clear out nearby mobs. Scythe Evie is able to lay down a steady stream of damage, and excels at crowd control with skills that target multiple enemies at once. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Fiona][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/fiona.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Fiona[/b] is best described as a tank, with great shield defense. She can utilize either a sword or a hammer as her weapon. Fiona has the ability to stun enemies allowing teammates to quickly overwhelm them. As a shield using tank, it is Fiona's responsibility to do damage while nullifying attacks done to her by blocking attacks with her shield or outright avoiding the attack. Although she lacks the speed of Lann's slashes and Evie's magic arrows, she is capable of covering large areas with her sweeping attacks, conducting powerful counterattacks, dealing quick sprint smashes, and is the best character in the game when it comes to surviving. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Lann][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/lann.PNG[/rimg][/url] [b]Lann[/b] is what many consider to be the rogue/ninja class of Vindictus. As the quickest melee combatant of the group, it is his responsibility to slice and dice while avoiding damage. It's a simple explanation but the skill of the person controlling Lann makes a large difference in combat success. Unlike other characters, Lanns have no actual self-defense skills, as opposed to Fiona's Guard & Heavy Stander, Evie's Mana Shield and Mana Amber, and Karok's Absorb Shock & Weaving. Both Twin and Spear Swords can slip in between attacks through Slip Dash and Rolling, respectively, although Twin Spears have much more difficulty to accomplish this. Therefore, they must take caution and space themselves from opponents in order to stay alive. Regardless, Lann is definitely a fun and easy class to play, but difficult to master. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Karok][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/karok.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Karok[/b] is a giant of a man. His primary weapon is an enormous Pillar that he swings around and smashes enemies with, and he can use the Cestus at level 24! He can carry a lot of Weight from the start. The upside of Karok’s huge size is the enormous amount of damage he can cause. Even basic attacks can send regular enemies flying across the battlefield. He’s also the only character with a Parry skill that can actually block a boss’ attack. Whether bare-handed or armed with weapons, Karok is an amazing character to play solo and can offer lots of damage potential or shielding during raids. Of course, Karok has his challenges as well. Players should not expect him to dominate the game – he will still need help. He’s quite a bit slower than other characters. He also has no AOE attacks. That means he may have issues with quick moving creatures or multiple weak enemies. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Kai][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/kai.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Kai[/b] is a swift and powerful warrior who wields a bow. Kai's bow can be configured for long range and close quarters battle, giving him the freedom to change tactics on the fly. Maintaining his distance will keep him alive. He can knock a boss off of its feet with his arrows. Kai's primary weapon is the bow, one which has two modes. There is the short bow mode, which fires quick but close-ranged arrows; and the long bow mode, which fires further but needs to be charged first. Kai's smash attack depends solely on which mode the bow is in. Unlike the other heroes, the majority of his offensive skills use SP, and thus has the bar available from the start and has faster SP gain. However, to balance him, Kai's SP decreases gradually. While he can shoot arrows fast and in long range, he suffers from having a hard time shooting small and fast enemies. He also has a special dodging skill that let's him zip around the enemies' attack, which gives him a short period of invulnerability. He can dodge anything if timed right. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Vella][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/vella.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Vella[/b] is the sixth playable character released in the game. She is able to dual wield the same Twin Swords as Lann, but has a very different play style. Vella is a versatile character who mixes equal measures of offense and defense to deal damage and leap across the battlefield, escaping enemy attacks without a scratch. She's capable of attacking even as she retreats, and her Counter-attack skill repels damage and positions her for fast retaliation. Watch Vella fight and you might catch glimpses of a blurred shape that strikes out like lightning, littering the battlefield with fallen Fomors. [b]Gameplay[/b]---------- I can't put the combat of this game into words. You have to see it yourself. It's a bit repetitive but that doesn't make it any less brutal or fun. [b]Evie[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffPQBso_RdA [b]Fiona[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9R6i7RkrI [b]Lann[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3fwU2ZiZAk [b]Karok[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSeqytD4RZ0 [b]Kai[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH_VjOKIIbI [b]Vella[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFYTQndBm-0

[Exbo]

Runescape?
I still play that often. :3

[TheLastMelody]

Runescape?
I still play that often. :3

Everybody, grab a weapon, the infection is upon us once more, get rid of the heretics before they manage to infect others!

[Zezin]

While we are talking about MMORPGs
Anyone else here play WoW?

[VacuityMechanica]

For those somewhat interested in Vindictus:

Hidden: Show

[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/logo.jpg[/img] [b]What is it?[/b]---------- Vindictus is an action MMO hosted by Nexon and developed by devCAT, the team behind Mabinogi the fantasy-life MMORPG. Vindictus acts as the prequel to Mabinogi, detailing the extensive 'War of the Fomors' that humans had fought, hoping to reach the promised land (presumed to be the world of Erinn, where Mabinogi takes place in). Of course, a war isn't a war without a lot of bloodshed and brutality and being an action MMO, this game has plenty of that. Did I mention it was free? [b]Characters[/b]---------- Vindictus' characters are gender locked because they all play a respective role within the games story. However, they are mostly customizable. Females in particular. You could call this game the barbie dress up doll simulator from Korea, I suppose. Every character has two weapon types, with the second being unlocked at level 24. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Evie][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/evie.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Evie[/b] is the most versatile character in the game. Her ability to create Golems, combined with her high DPS makes her an ideal class for soloing missions. Evie is also a great support character, as she can heal her party members with Healing Corona, or buff party members with Insane Reaper or Regeneration. Staff Evie's long range spells such as Ice Spear and Blind Arrow are great for taking out dangerous enemies from a safe distance, while Ice Blast and Fire Bolt can clear out nearby mobs. Scythe Evie is able to lay down a steady stream of damage, and excels at crowd control with skills that target multiple enemies at once. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Fiona][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/fiona.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Fiona[/b] is best described as a tank, with great shield defense. She can utilize either a sword or a hammer as her weapon. Fiona has the ability to stun enemies allowing teammates to quickly overwhelm them. As a shield using tank, it is Fiona's responsibility to do damage while nullifying attacks done to her by blocking attacks with her shield or outright avoiding the attack. Although she lacks the speed of Lann's slashes and Evie's magic arrows, she is capable of covering large areas with her sweeping attacks, conducting powerful counterattacks, dealing quick sprint smashes, and is the best character in the game when it comes to surviving. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Lann][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/lann.PNG[/rimg][/url] [b]Lann[/b] is what many consider to be the rogue/ninja class of Vindictus. As the quickest melee combatant of the group, it is his responsibility to slice and dice while avoiding damage. It's a simple explanation but the skill of the person controlling Lann makes a large difference in combat success. Unlike other characters, Lanns have no actual self-defense skills, as opposed to Fiona's Guard & Heavy Stander, Evie's Mana Shield and Mana Amber, and Karok's Absorb Shock & Weaving. Both Twin and Spear Swords can slip in between attacks through Slip Dash and Rolling, respectively, although Twin Spears have much more difficulty to accomplish this. Therefore, they must take caution and space themselves from opponents in order to stay alive. Regardless, Lann is definitely a fun and easy class to play, but difficult to master. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Karok][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/karok.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Karok[/b] is a giant of a man. His primary weapon is an enormous Pillar that he swings around and smashes enemies with, and he can use the Cestus at level 24! He can carry a lot of Weight from the start. The upside of Karok’s huge size is the enormous amount of damage he can cause. Even basic attacks can send regular enemies flying across the battlefield. He’s also the only character with a Parry skill that can actually block a boss’ attack. Whether bare-handed or armed with weapons, Karok is an amazing character to play solo and can offer lots of damage potential or shielding during raids. Of course, Karok has his challenges as well. Players should not expect him to dominate the game – he will still need help. He’s quite a bit slower than other characters. He also has no AOE attacks. That means he may have issues with quick moving creatures or multiple weak enemies. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Kai][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/kai.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Kai[/b] is a swift and powerful warrior who wields a bow. Kai's bow can be configured for long range and close quarters battle, giving him the freedom to change tactics on the fly. Maintaining his distance will keep him alive. He can knock a boss off of its feet with his arrows. Kai's primary weapon is the bow, one which has two modes. There is the short bow mode, which fires quick but close-ranged arrows; and the long bow mode, which fires further but needs to be charged first. Kai's smash attack depends solely on which mode the bow is in. Unlike the other heroes, the majority of his offensive skills use SP, and thus has the bar available from the start and has faster SP gain. However, to balance him, Kai's SP decreases gradually. While he can shoot arrows fast and in long range, he suffers from having a hard time shooting small and fast enemies. He also has a special dodging skill that let's him zip around the enemies' attack, which gives him a short period of invulnerability. He can dodge anything if timed right. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Vella][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/vella.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Vella[/b] is the sixth playable character released in the game. She is able to dual wield the same Twin Swords as Lann, but has a very different play style. Vella is a versatile character who mixes equal measures of offense and defense to deal damage and leap across the battlefield, escaping enemy attacks without a scratch. She's capable of attacking even as she retreats, and her Counter-attack skill repels damage and positions her for fast retaliation. Watch Vella fight and you might catch glimpses of a blurred shape that strikes out like lightning, littering the battlefield with fallen Fomors. [b]Gameplay[/b]---------- I can't put the combat of this game into words. You have to see it yourself. It's a bit repetitive but that doesn't make it any less brutal or fun. [b]Evie[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffPQBso_RdA [b]Fiona[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9R6i7RkrI [b]Lann[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3fwU2ZiZAk [b]Karok[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSeqytD4RZ0 [b]Kai[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH_VjOKIIbI [b]Vella[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFYTQndBm-0

I took on look at what the characters were wearing and how ridiculously proportioned they were and said lolnope. Game armour is always so intricately designed, stylized, and non-protective to the point where it's obnoxiously redundant. Overly muscly man and ridiculously buxom broad aren't winning any favors as well. Vidyagaem characters are becoming quite a turn off for vidyagaems for me.

Where are my Brienne's of Tarth at? Where's my suits of Munition Armour at?

Character design is mostly poo in RPG's nowadays.

[jarek56]

For those somewhat interested in Vindictus:

Hidden: Show

[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/logo.jpg[/img] [b]What is it?[/b]---------- Vindictus is an action MMO hosted by Nexon and developed by devCAT, the team behind Mabinogi the fantasy-life MMORPG. Vindictus acts as the prequel to Mabinogi, detailing the extensive 'War of the Fomors' that humans had fought, hoping to reach the promised land (presumed to be the world of Erinn, where Mabinogi takes place in). Of course, a war isn't a war without a lot of bloodshed and brutality and being an action MMO, this game has plenty of that. Did I mention it was free? [b]Characters[/b]---------- Vindictus' characters are gender locked because they all play a respective role within the games story. However, they are mostly customizable. Females in particular. You could call this game the barbie dress up doll simulator from Korea, I suppose. Every character has two weapon types, with the second being unlocked at level 24. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Evie][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/evie.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Evie[/b] is the most versatile character in the game. Her ability to create Golems, combined with her high DPS makes her an ideal class for soloing missions. Evie is also a great support character, as she can heal her party members with Healing Corona, or buff party members with Insane Reaper or Regeneration. Staff Evie's long range spells such as Ice Spear and Blind Arrow are great for taking out dangerous enemies from a safe distance, while Ice Blast and Fire Bolt can clear out nearby mobs. Scythe Evie is able to lay down a steady stream of damage, and excels at crowd control with skills that target multiple enemies at once. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Fiona][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/fiona.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Fiona[/b] is best described as a tank, with great shield defense. She can utilize either a sword or a hammer as her weapon. Fiona has the ability to stun enemies allowing teammates to quickly overwhelm them. As a shield using tank, it is Fiona's responsibility to do damage while nullifying attacks done to her by blocking attacks with her shield or outright avoiding the attack. Although she lacks the speed of Lann's slashes and Evie's magic arrows, she is capable of covering large areas with her sweeping attacks, conducting powerful counterattacks, dealing quick sprint smashes, and is the best character in the game when it comes to surviving. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Lann][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/lann.PNG[/rimg][/url] [b]Lann[/b] is what many consider to be the rogue/ninja class of Vindictus. As the quickest melee combatant of the group, it is his responsibility to slice and dice while avoiding damage. It's a simple explanation but the skill of the person controlling Lann makes a large difference in combat success. Unlike other characters, Lanns have no actual self-defense skills, as opposed to Fiona's Guard & Heavy Stander, Evie's Mana Shield and Mana Amber, and Karok's Absorb Shock & Weaving. Both Twin and Spear Swords can slip in between attacks through Slip Dash and Rolling, respectively, although Twin Spears have much more difficulty to accomplish this. Therefore, they must take caution and space themselves from opponents in order to stay alive. Regardless, Lann is definitely a fun and easy class to play, but difficult to master. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Karok][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/karok.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Karok[/b] is a giant of a man. His primary weapon is an enormous Pillar that he swings around and smashes enemies with, and he can use the Cestus at level 24! He can carry a lot of Weight from the start. The upside of Karok’s huge size is the enormous amount of damage he can cause. Even basic attacks can send regular enemies flying across the battlefield. He’s also the only character with a Parry skill that can actually block a boss’ attack. Whether bare-handed or armed with weapons, Karok is an amazing character to play solo and can offer lots of damage potential or shielding during raids. Of course, Karok has his challenges as well. Players should not expect him to dominate the game – he will still need help. He’s quite a bit slower than other characters. He also has no AOE attacks. That means he may have issues with quick moving creatures or multiple weak enemies. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Kai][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/kai.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Kai[/b] is a swift and powerful warrior who wields a bow. Kai's bow can be configured for long range and close quarters battle, giving him the freedom to change tactics on the fly. Maintaining his distance will keep him alive. He can knock a boss off of its feet with his arrows. Kai's primary weapon is the bow, one which has two modes. There is the short bow mode, which fires quick but close-ranged arrows; and the long bow mode, which fires further but needs to be charged first. Kai's smash attack depends solely on which mode the bow is in. Unlike the other heroes, the majority of his offensive skills use SP, and thus has the bar available from the start and has faster SP gain. However, to balance him, Kai's SP decreases gradually. While he can shoot arrows fast and in long range, he suffers from having a hard time shooting small and fast enemies. He also has a special dodging skill that let's him zip around the enemies' attack, which gives him a short period of invulnerability. He can dodge anything if timed right. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Vella][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/vella.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Vella[/b] is the sixth playable character released in the game. She is able to dual wield the same Twin Swords as Lann, but has a very different play style. Vella is a versatile character who mixes equal measures of offense and defense to deal damage and leap across the battlefield, escaping enemy attacks without a scratch. She's capable of attacking even as she retreats, and her Counter-attack skill repels damage and positions her for fast retaliation. Watch Vella fight and you might catch glimpses of a blurred shape that strikes out like lightning, littering the battlefield with fallen Fomors. [b]Gameplay[/b]---------- I can't put the combat of this game into words. You have to see it yourself. It's a bit repetitive but that doesn't make it any less brutal or fun. [b]Evie[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffPQBso_RdA [b]Fiona[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9R6i7RkrI [b]Lann[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3fwU2ZiZAk [b]Karok[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSeqytD4RZ0 [b]Kai[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH_VjOKIIbI [b]Vella[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFYTQndBm-0

I took on look at what the characters were wearing and how ridiculously proportioned they were and said lolnope. Game armour is always so intricately designed, stylized, and non-protective to the point where it's obnoxiously redundant. Overly muscly man and ridiculously buxom broad aren't winning any favors as well. Vidyagaem characters are becoming quite a turn off for vidyagaems for me.

Where are my Brienne's of Tarth at? Where's my suits of Munition Armour at?

Character design is mostly poo in RPG's nowadays.

Sadly, one of the few lessons that RPG makers seems to have learned is that sex sells. To the point of absurdity.

[VacuityMechanica]

For those somewhat interested in Vindictus:

Hidden: Show

[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/logo.jpg[/img] [b]What is it?[/b]---------- Vindictus is an action MMO hosted by Nexon and developed by devCAT, the team behind Mabinogi the fantasy-life MMORPG. Vindictus acts as the prequel to Mabinogi, detailing the extensive 'War of the Fomors' that humans had fought, hoping to reach the promised land (presumed to be the world of Erinn, where Mabinogi takes place in). Of course, a war isn't a war without a lot of bloodshed and brutality and being an action MMO, this game has plenty of that. Did I mention it was free? [b]Characters[/b]---------- Vindictus' characters are gender locked because they all play a respective role within the games story. However, they are mostly customizable. Females in particular. You could call this game the barbie dress up doll simulator from Korea, I suppose. Every character has two weapon types, with the second being unlocked at level 24. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Evie][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/evie.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Evie[/b] is the most versatile character in the game. Her ability to create Golems, combined with her high DPS makes her an ideal class for soloing missions. Evie is also a great support character, as she can heal her party members with Healing Corona, or buff party members with Insane Reaper or Regeneration. Staff Evie's long range spells such as Ice Spear and Blind Arrow are great for taking out dangerous enemies from a safe distance, while Ice Blast and Fire Bolt can clear out nearby mobs. Scythe Evie is able to lay down a steady stream of damage, and excels at crowd control with skills that target multiple enemies at once. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Fiona][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/fiona.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Fiona[/b] is best described as a tank, with great shield defense. She can utilize either a sword or a hammer as her weapon. Fiona has the ability to stun enemies allowing teammates to quickly overwhelm them. As a shield using tank, it is Fiona's responsibility to do damage while nullifying attacks done to her by blocking attacks with her shield or outright avoiding the attack. Although she lacks the speed of Lann's slashes and Evie's magic arrows, she is capable of covering large areas with her sweeping attacks, conducting powerful counterattacks, dealing quick sprint smashes, and is the best character in the game when it comes to surviving. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Lann][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/lann.PNG[/rimg][/url] [b]Lann[/b] is what many consider to be the rogue/ninja class of Vindictus. As the quickest melee combatant of the group, it is his responsibility to slice and dice while avoiding damage. It's a simple explanation but the skill of the person controlling Lann makes a large difference in combat success. Unlike other characters, Lanns have no actual self-defense skills, as opposed to Fiona's Guard & Heavy Stander, Evie's Mana Shield and Mana Amber, and Karok's Absorb Shock & Weaving. Both Twin and Spear Swords can slip in between attacks through Slip Dash and Rolling, respectively, although Twin Spears have much more difficulty to accomplish this. Therefore, they must take caution and space themselves from opponents in order to stay alive. Regardless, Lann is definitely a fun and easy class to play, but difficult to master. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Karok][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/karok.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Karok[/b] is a giant of a man. His primary weapon is an enormous Pillar that he swings around and smashes enemies with, and he can use the Cestus at level 24! He can carry a lot of Weight from the start. The upside of Karok’s huge size is the enormous amount of damage he can cause. Even basic attacks can send regular enemies flying across the battlefield. He’s also the only character with a Parry skill that can actually block a boss’ attack. Whether bare-handed or armed with weapons, Karok is an amazing character to play solo and can offer lots of damage potential or shielding during raids. Of course, Karok has his challenges as well. Players should not expect him to dominate the game – he will still need help. He’s quite a bit slower than other characters. He also has no AOE attacks. That means he may have issues with quick moving creatures or multiple weak enemies. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Kai][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/kai.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Kai[/b] is a swift and powerful warrior who wields a bow. Kai's bow can be configured for long range and close quarters battle, giving him the freedom to change tactics on the fly. Maintaining his distance will keep him alive. He can knock a boss off of its feet with his arrows. Kai's primary weapon is the bow, one which has two modes. There is the short bow mode, which fires quick but close-ranged arrows; and the long bow mode, which fires further but needs to be charged first. Kai's smash attack depends solely on which mode the bow is in. Unlike the other heroes, the majority of his offensive skills use SP, and thus has the bar available from the start and has faster SP gain. However, to balance him, Kai's SP decreases gradually. While he can shoot arrows fast and in long range, he suffers from having a hard time shooting small and fast enemies. He also has a special dodging skill that let's him zip around the enemies' attack, which gives him a short period of invulnerability. He can dodge anything if timed right. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Vella][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/vella.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Vella[/b] is the sixth playable character released in the game. She is able to dual wield the same Twin Swords as Lann, but has a very different play style. Vella is a versatile character who mixes equal measures of offense and defense to deal damage and leap across the battlefield, escaping enemy attacks without a scratch. She's capable of attacking even as she retreats, and her Counter-attack skill repels damage and positions her for fast retaliation. Watch Vella fight and you might catch glimpses of a blurred shape that strikes out like lightning, littering the battlefield with fallen Fomors. [b]Gameplay[/b]---------- I can't put the combat of this game into words. You have to see it yourself. It's a bit repetitive but that doesn't make it any less brutal or fun. [b]Evie[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffPQBso_RdA [b]Fiona[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9R6i7RkrI [b]Lann[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3fwU2ZiZAk [b]Karok[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSeqytD4RZ0 [b]Kai[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH_VjOKIIbI [b]Vella[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFYTQndBm-0

I took on look at what the characters were wearing and how ridiculously proportioned they were and said lolnope. Game armour is always so intricately designed, stylized, and non-protective to the point where it's obnoxiously redundant. Overly muscly man and ridiculously buxom broad aren't winning any favors as well. Vidyagaem characters are becoming quite a turn off for vidyagaems for me.

Where are my Brienne's of Tarth at? Where's my suits of Munition Armour at?

Character design is mostly poo in RPG's nowadays. :(

Sadly, one of the few lessons that RPG makers seems to have learned is that sex sells. To the point of absurdity.

If only people would start to learn that sex appeal doesn't always need to equal voluptuous. Or more skin showing. Or even completely perfect, symmetrical features.

Sex does sell, there's no debating that; but idea of sex equaling abundant perceived perfection - that's what I find the most obnoxious of all.

[jarek56]

For those somewhat interested in Vindictus:

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[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/logo.jpg[/img] [b]What is it?[/b]---------- Vindictus is an action MMO hosted by Nexon and developed by devCAT, the team behind Mabinogi the fantasy-life MMORPG. Vindictus acts as the prequel to Mabinogi, detailing the extensive 'War of the Fomors' that humans had fought, hoping to reach the promised land (presumed to be the world of Erinn, where Mabinogi takes place in). Of course, a war isn't a war without a lot of bloodshed and brutality and being an action MMO, this game has plenty of that. Did I mention it was free? [b]Characters[/b]---------- Vindictus' characters are gender locked because they all play a respective role within the games story. However, they are mostly customizable. Females in particular. You could call this game the barbie dress up doll simulator from Korea, I suppose. Every character has two weapon types, with the second being unlocked at level 24. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Evie][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/evie.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Evie[/b] is the most versatile character in the game. Her ability to create Golems, combined with her high DPS makes her an ideal class for soloing missions. Evie is also a great support character, as she can heal her party members with Healing Corona, or buff party members with Insane Reaper or Regeneration. Staff Evie's long range spells such as Ice Spear and Blind Arrow are great for taking out dangerous enemies from a safe distance, while Ice Blast and Fire Bolt can clear out nearby mobs. Scythe Evie is able to lay down a steady stream of damage, and excels at crowd control with skills that target multiple enemies at once. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Fiona][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/fiona.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Fiona[/b] is best described as a tank, with great shield defense. She can utilize either a sword or a hammer as her weapon. Fiona has the ability to stun enemies allowing teammates to quickly overwhelm them. As a shield using tank, it is Fiona's responsibility to do damage while nullifying attacks done to her by blocking attacks with her shield or outright avoiding the attack. Although she lacks the speed of Lann's slashes and Evie's magic arrows, she is capable of covering large areas with her sweeping attacks, conducting powerful counterattacks, dealing quick sprint smashes, and is the best character in the game when it comes to surviving. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Lann][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/lann.PNG[/rimg][/url] [b]Lann[/b] is what many consider to be the rogue/ninja class of Vindictus. As the quickest melee combatant of the group, it is his responsibility to slice and dice while avoiding damage. It's a simple explanation but the skill of the person controlling Lann makes a large difference in combat success. Unlike other characters, Lanns have no actual self-defense skills, as opposed to Fiona's Guard & Heavy Stander, Evie's Mana Shield and Mana Amber, and Karok's Absorb Shock & Weaving. Both Twin and Spear Swords can slip in between attacks through Slip Dash and Rolling, respectively, although Twin Spears have much more difficulty to accomplish this. Therefore, they must take caution and space themselves from opponents in order to stay alive. Regardless, Lann is definitely a fun and easy class to play, but difficult to master. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Karok][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/karok.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Karok[/b] is a giant of a man. His primary weapon is an enormous Pillar that he swings around and smashes enemies with, and he can use the Cestus at level 24! He can carry a lot of Weight from the start. The upside of Karok’s huge size is the enormous amount of damage he can cause. Even basic attacks can send regular enemies flying across the battlefield. He’s also the only character with a Parry skill that can actually block a boss’ attack. Whether bare-handed or armed with weapons, Karok is an amazing character to play solo and can offer lots of damage potential or shielding during raids. Of course, Karok has his challenges as well. Players should not expect him to dominate the game – he will still need help. He’s quite a bit slower than other characters. He also has no AOE attacks. That means he may have issues with quick moving creatures or multiple weak enemies. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Kai][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/kai.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Kai[/b] is a swift and powerful warrior who wields a bow. Kai's bow can be configured for long range and close quarters battle, giving him the freedom to change tactics on the fly. Maintaining his distance will keep him alive. He can knock a boss off of its feet with his arrows. Kai's primary weapon is the bow, one which has two modes. There is the short bow mode, which fires quick but close-ranged arrows; and the long bow mode, which fires further but needs to be charged first. Kai's smash attack depends solely on which mode the bow is in. Unlike the other heroes, the majority of his offensive skills use SP, and thus has the bar available from the start and has faster SP gain. However, to balance him, Kai's SP decreases gradually. While he can shoot arrows fast and in long range, he suffers from having a hard time shooting small and fast enemies. He also has a special dodging skill that let's him zip around the enemies' attack, which gives him a short period of invulnerability. He can dodge anything if timed right. [url=http://www.vindictuswiki.com/wiki/Vella][rimg]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2848674/vindictus/vella.png[/rimg][/url] [b]Vella[/b] is the sixth playable character released in the game. She is able to dual wield the same Twin Swords as Lann, but has a very different play style. Vella is a versatile character who mixes equal measures of offense and defense to deal damage and leap across the battlefield, escaping enemy attacks without a scratch. She's capable of attacking even as she retreats, and her Counter-attack skill repels damage and positions her for fast retaliation. Watch Vella fight and you might catch glimpses of a blurred shape that strikes out like lightning, littering the battlefield with fallen Fomors. [b]Gameplay[/b]---------- I can't put the combat of this game into words. You have to see it yourself. It's a bit repetitive but that doesn't make it any less brutal or fun. [b]Evie[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffPQBso_RdA [b]Fiona[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9R6i7RkrI [b]Lann[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3fwU2ZiZAk [b]Karok[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSeqytD4RZ0 [b]Kai[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH_VjOKIIbI [b]Vella[/b] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFYTQndBm-0

I took on look at what the characters were wearing and how ridiculously proportioned they were and said lolnope. Game armour is always so intricately designed, stylized, and non-protective to the point where it's obnoxiously redundant. Overly muscly man and ridiculously buxom broad aren't winning any favors as well. Vidyagaem characters are becoming quite a turn off for vidyagaems for me.

Where are my Brienne's of Tarth at? Where's my suits of Munition Armour at?

Character design is mostly poo in RPG's nowadays.

Sadly, one of the few lessons that RPG makers seems to have learned is that sex sells. To the point of absurdity.

If only people would start to learn that sex appeal doesn't always need to equal voluptuous. Or more skin showing. Or even completely perfect, symmetrical features.

Sex does sell, there's no debating that; but idea of sex equaling abundant perceived perfection - that's what I find the most obnoxious of all.

You preach to the choir my friend. I mean, don't get me wrong: I LOVE me my eye candy. Hell, I play a free MMO simply because it had rather...attractive eye candy characters blowing the shit out of each other with lasers, missiles, and beam axes. I admit it, attractive females catch my eye. But that alone doesn't...get me hooked. And I HATE the "checking the fetish blocks" bullshit. I LIKE characters that are attractive, but not perfect. And NO, that doesn't mean PERFECT GIRLS with a SMALL, EASILY CORRECTABLE scar over one cheek. I mean, seriously. Hot IS hot, but if I want absurd perfection you could...well, get off on, I'd go watch porn. I'm not paying for softcore bullcrap. I'm paying for a fun, large-player base game. Or, not paying, as the case could be.

[Snuffkin]

The only MMO I've ever really enjoyed was Kingdom of Loathing. I've tried WoW, and I just found it to be a 2-dimensional timesink.

[Likhos]

I personnaly hate WoW because it is for me the sign of the death of the wonderfull strategy games Warcraft that I loved a lot.
no more duel of destiny between two heroes, just the most emblematic figures of the warcraft universe taken down by a bunch of crazy assholes who came from nowhere.
Really I find it sad.

[ProNice]

I did Ragnarok Online, a decade ago.
I was addicted as hell. And I learned a valuable lesson:
My mind is weak to the temptation of MMOs.
Never again.

[kwisatz2hederach]

I can't stand MMO's in general. I really have a laundry list against them.

1.) The communities. Full of "d00dz" that apparently did my mom. Also, if I don't reach the level cap in under a week or so, I'm a "n00b, srsly".
2.) The immersion. In single player, I get to be the hero, a special role. In an MMO, everyone is a magic casting, sword swinging hero, so I'm nothing special. In order to do anything, I have to be in a group of said 'd00dz' instead of having my own adventure.
3.) The peripheral leveling. I can't just go out and slay some baddies. I have to learn fishing, then fire building,then cooking to get food to supply health for fighting. Oh yeah, different weapons each has their own leveling system. These excessive peripherals just feel like a grindfest added to artificially increase play time, not to actually add fun to the game.
4.)Overall fun factor. Yeah, there is so much to do. Like building your own armors, sewing hats and capes, decorating houses, learning to fish. But it isn't really fun. It's just something to do before you can go out and have fun, or something else to do once you've realized a lot of the fun gameplay is just fetch quests and you've ground even that into dust.

None of this is to say I don't like multi-player games. But I prefer the couch co-op or a small LAN party of friends over the crowds of the MMO games.
This also isn't to say the peripheral elements aren't okay. You can have fun designing houses in SIM games and the like, I just don't want it in a game where I'm slaying legions of the monsters for the fate of mankind.

[StoleYourCookies]

Oooh Runescape thread! Time to join the forums!
Anyways, hello everyone, glad to be here stalking updates on Missing Stars.
I was a long time Runescaper. Glad to be rid of that time sink. Loads of fun with great storylines.
Why did I quit at level 136? My membership code guy stopped selling me member codes at about 10m. (I then botted attack potions the following day for like 20m )
Best part of the game for me has to be beating Nomad at 107. It was so intense my heart races whenever I listen to that song again. Ah, good times.
But hey they ruined RS shortly after I quit with the 'Wheel of Squeal' or some shit, breaking the principle of not allowing real world trading.
I'm still sad when I think I had 250m I never passed on to a newbie. I heard they removed trade limits finally, though. But meh let it rot. Don't care anymore.
I will have to finish the main storyline someday. Maybe after I get over the VN craze.

[TheCynic]

Oooh Runescape thread! Time to join the forums!
Anyways, hello everyone, glad to be here stalking updates on Missing Stars.
I was a long time Runescaper. Glad to be rid of that time sink. Loads of fun with great storylines.
Why did I quit at level 136? My membership code guy stopped selling me member codes at about 10m. (I then botted attack potions the following day for like 20m )
Best part of the game for me has to be beating Nomad at 107. It was so intense my heart races whenever I listen to that song again. Ah, good times.
But hey they ruined RS shortly after I quit with the 'Wheel of Squeal' or some shit, breaking the principle of not allowing real world trading.
I'm still sad when I think I had 250m I never passed on to a newbie. I heard they removed trade limits finally, though. But meh let it rot. Don't care anymore.
I will have to finish the main storyline someday. Maybe after I get over the VN craze.

Not cool man :/

You're making me rethink leaving Runescape for good

[enagemegane]

I heard Tera is FTP now!

[ILY]

Gonna fix this real quick

You're making me rethink leaving Runescape for good

Very cool, man!

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I heard Tera is FTP now!

And is very creepy with all of the 30+ y/o men playing Elins