If you would write your own VN...

[Brasse]

I suspect that many of who frequent his forum are interested in producing their own visual novel. However, we are still painfully aware of the fact that the production and completion of a decent visual novel requires time, energy, technical skills and patience, all of which are difficult to acquire and keep. Still, it's fun imagining and discussing ideas, concepts etc. even though they'll never be realized. The intent of this thread is exactly that; a platform to throw out VN ideas you have. I'll post my own idea later this evening.

[imperial.standard]

Brainstorming thread RIGHT at our doorstep! Oh goody...

[Zarich]

I have an ides of a VN. We have a guy, gets put into another school due to certain circumcpstances, and he meets girls like some csrefree girl, a big breasted flapper with a big ass and a tan pettanko with a mask fetish.....oh wait. Xp

But neways really with this neine can take someones ideas for themselves if one gets too elaborate

[scopedknife]

I certainly having some beginnings of concepts swimming around in my head like I always do. But at the moment these are too incomplete to share... and if I do share I shall have to be most careful not to give too much information to the general public... just in case ;D

[Malkav]

The key to sharing your ideas, I believe, is to be very vague while still being quite specific.

I've always been interested in developing a story that makes the reader feel, all at once, more and less human than they have ever felt before in their lives. A story in which one questions the validity and integrity of their identity. A story that has the capacity to both invigorate and cripple the passions of the audience in such a way that, by the end of the tale, the feeling the audience ends up with upon reaching the conclusion depends on the audience, itself.

To do that, I've been considering a plot theme that requires both the greatest and least amount of humanity possible at once: survival.

[Zarich]

The key to sharing your ideas, I believe, is to be very vague while still being quite specific.

I've always been interested in developing a story that makes the reader feel, all at once, more and less human than they have ever felt before in their lives. A story in which one questions the validity and integrity of their identity. A story that has the capacity to both invigorate and cripple the passions of the audience in such a way that, by the end of the tale, the feeling the audience ends up with upon reaching the conclusion depends on the audience, itself.

To do that, I've been considering a plot theme that requires both the greatest and least amount of humanity possible at once: survival.

For a second I was thinking Saya No Uta for some reason until it got to Survival part

[myshoesarebrown]

I'm much more interesting in writing a regular old book. Though, if I were to make a VN, it wouldn't be a "dating simulator" type. It'd probably involve playing as a governess in a Victorian era mansion, and then strange shit happens. It's been done in a lot of books, and I'd like to see it happen more often than it does in video games.

I'd most likely abandon the anime art for something more western, and in the end, it'd probably most likely resemble a point-and-click adventure game. I would try to include Phoenix Wright-style gameplay at points, where the player must use clues he has gathered to point out the lies in an NPC's dialogue.

And Brasse, I don't know why, but your avatar has been imprinted on my memory. So much so that it has been popping into my mind randomly throughout the day. I hate you.

[Brasse]

Alright, here's an idea I had which I thought was kinda amusing:

Ideas for a title: Love-ism, Hearts & Minds, Politicaru Shoujo

I had something lighthearted in mind where there protagonist can interact with and eventually date anthropomorphic prominent political ideologies, whose personalities and quirks are determined by the spirit of the ideologies themselves, how they are perceived by the public, the advantages and problems of the various movements who held these views and the mindset and personalities of influential thinkers within their respective tradition. There would be six girls in total, living together three-by-three in two rooms; the Left and the Right room, respectively.

Conservative-tan: She comes from a rich family and has tastes to match. While she can act classy if required to, her personality is on the brash and somewhat dominating side, with an explosive temper to boot. She likes "common sense"-approaches to problems and is a down-to-earth person in general, but has a tendency to use certain words considered offensive by some minorities (whose reaction she dismisses as "political correctness gone mad"). She does not cope well with sudden change and prefers peace and quiet around her with clear routines. As a genuinely caring and supportive person, she contributes a lot to charity and encourages others to do the same. Her hobbies include going to church, visiting her families country manor on the weekends, baking cupcakes and playing golf (there has to be a scene where the protagonist follows her around the course as her caddy). She cannot stand Marxist-tan. Studies International Relations.

Ideologies: Liberal Conservatism, Christian Democracy, National Liberalism.

Libertarian-tan: Owns a small bookstore specializing in student literature with Syndicalist-tan as her only employee. She is somewhat eccentric, usually serious and values her autonomy immensely; she hates it when people patronize her (especially Social Liberal-tan). She has a "mind your own business" approach to most things and tends to be a bit egoistic. Although she has a very admirable work ethic, she struggles to cope with managing both her university studies (macro-economics, masters level) and the bookstore at the same time. An avid marijuana user, she grows some of her own in a secluded room in the shop. Likes to browse various internet communities and online gunshops - her dream is to one day own a real FN FAL battle rifle - as well as reading (her favourite authors are Robert Nozick and Ayn Rand). Does most of the cooking in the right-wing dorm. Attends a secret Objectivist society. Has a very elaborate plan of what to do in case of a zombie invasion. Natural ditz. Her route mostly focuses on being a business owner and how it relates to the state.

Ideologies: Right-wing Libertarianism, Anarcho-Capitalism, Classical Liberalism.

Social Liberal-tan: SL-tan hates genuine conflicts - being in the middle of the political spectrum, she usually assumes a position of negotiator and diplomat between two quarreling parties. She will, however, refuse to distance herself from her belief in human rationality and their basic rights and likes a friendly discussion. Can cooperate with most people and prefers to emphasize similarities rather then differences. Avid fan of John Rawls and likes to debate with Libertarian-tan on the topics of positive versus negative liberty. She is currently a student of medicine. Has a highly developed sense of intuition. Her disdain for conflicts leads to her frequently being called a coward by others. Although she is more or less universally liked, she is specially good friends with Socialist-tan, whom she likes to go mountain climbing with. Her hobbies include art, watching TV (her favorite programs are "Yes, Minister" and "The Thick Of It"), climbing and arguing with Libertarian-tan. Secretary of the student council.

Ideologies: Social Liberalism, Utilitarian Liberalism

Socialist-tan: An easy-going gal who studies journalism. She is a fierce protector of the environment and corporate exploitation of the poor. A skilled cook, her trademark vegetarian dishes are loved by all. Strongly dislikes inequality and will go great lengths to see that procedures are fair and square. Spends her time either climbing with SL-tan, hanging up posters and handing out leaflets from one of the many humanitarian and environmentalist organizations she's a member of, cooking or hanging at a local café with a cup of Fairtrade-marked tea. She tends to trust authorities and experts more than her own intuitions, especially when it comes to matters where money is involved. If she notices a crack in her debate adversary's reasoning or inconsistencies in her interviewees' accounts she is quick to pressure them. She is a skilled planner, usually taking care of logistics during the many demonstrations and manifestations she is involved in, always ensuring that food and drink come cheap, Eco-friendly and vegetarian. Grows her own herbs in the Leftist room kitchen window.

Ideologies: Social Democracy, Environmentalism, State Socialism

Marxist-tan: Analytical, cold, bossy and calculating. Likes to divide people into groups and classes. A very bright law student, but tends to dislike and demean people who are less intelligent and knowledgeable then her. Difficult to acquire her genuine respect, but if one manages to do so he or she will have a loyal and trustworthy friend. Is sensitive when it comes to her past as she is not really sure of what to think of it. Despises Conservative-tan. Tends to think in terms of "the end justifies the means". Bitter with the patriarchy and the chauvinist members of the Communist Party, of which she is a member. (In the Good ending she'll confront them). Has refined touch to her, but can let loose among those she respects. Has very high standards for herself and constantly re-evaluates the different schools of Marxist thought that has emerged during the last hundred years. One of the most difficult routes in terms of schooling as the more theoretical aspects of Marxism will be brought up and explained (i.e dialectic materialism, theory of alienation, labor theory of value etc). She enjoys gardening, reading difficult Marxist, post-modernist, radical feminist and post-structuralist literature and jogging.

Ideologies: Orthodox Marxism, Marxist-Leninism, Trotskyism, Left-Feminism

Syndicalist-tan: A impulsive, bubbly and energetic girl who likes to provoke and tease people. Works at Libertarian-tan's store and tries to persuade her to reorganize it into a cooperative (which happens in her good ending). Well-versed around labor-oriented questions and member of the local revolutionary trade union. Loves personal freedom immensely and believes that everyone should be able to choose the economic system of their liking. "Expropriates" books from the store and hands them to the local library instead sometimes, driving Libertarian-tan insane. She plays bass in a local punk-band that preforms regularly at a small hipster-bar. Loves V for Vendetta. Likes Marxist-tan (even though Marxist-tan used to be mean to her in the past) but finds her bossy attitude overbearing sometimes. Cares little about the opinion of others. Can quote Michael Bakunin and Max Stirner from memory. Often starts projects that end up being abandoned half-way though completion. A student of biology. Feeds a wild cat with black fur that comes by every evening.
Wears wooden clogs.

Ideologies: (Anarcho-)Syndicalism, Social Anarchism, Libertarian Marxism/Socialism



Side characters


Illegalist-tan: Syndicalist-tans restless sister, who visits the bookstore in search of esoteric titles. Very talented at making home-made bombs. Gets most of her food from dumpsters and attacks farms and stores that sell furs at nights. Aims to destroy society.

Ideologies: Illegalism, Insurrectionism, Anarcho-Primitivism

Nazi-tan: Fiercely aggressive, proud and authoritarian. Used to be a member of the student council before she was kicked out. Spends most of her time on the internet, arguing with people on the commentary section on youtube videos. Aims to conquer the world and kill all "weaklings".

Ideologies: Nazism, Fascism

And Brasse, I don't know why, but your avatar has been imprinted on my memory. So much so that it has been popping into my mind randomly throughout the day. I hate you.

You are very welcome.

[myshoesarebrown]

So, basically, you are suggesting...

[Brasse]

The intention of the thread was to showcase ideas that people are too lazy to ever pick up and turn into actual VNs, but hell, I can write a route or two if the project would gain momentum. Which does not seem likely to happen, but it would nevertheless be cool.

[Zarich]

I was thinking of religious girl at one point (Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Neo-Pagan/wiccan or Classical Pagan) but the political one seems pretty cool. Even if it did take momentum I could take time from writing all five routes from my project and do Conservative-tan path, coming from a conservative family, al be it, Middle Class.

[Brasse]

I was thinking of religious girl at one point (Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Neo-Pagan/wiccan or Classical Pagan) but the political one seems pretty cool. Even if it did take momentum I could take time from writing all five routes from my project and do Conservative-tan path, coming from a conservative family, al be it, Middle Class.

I think there was a few concept images based around something similar - I remember the detail vaguely, the Christian girl was for instance a carpenter who had a habit of nailing her hands to whatever she was working on.


Myself I believe that I can do Social Liberalism, Socialism and Left Libertarianism justice. I don't feel that I can convey the right-wing economical critique in a satisfying manner and I have yet to fully grasp the aspects of Marxism beyond its practical implications, orthodox as well as non-orthodox. Additionally, I am confident that I can make Illegalist-tan seem at the very least a little bit sensible.

[Zarich]

I was thinking of religious girl at one point (Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Neo-Pagan/wiccan or Classical Pagan) but the political one seems pretty cool. Even if it did take momentum I could take time from writing all five routes from my project and do Conservative-tan path, coming from a conservative family, al be it, Middle Class.

I think there was a few concept images based around something similar - I remember the detail vaguely, the Christian girl was for instance a carpenter who had a habit of nailing her hands to whatever she was working on.


Myself I believe that I can do Social Liberalism, Socialism and Left Libertarianism justice. I don't feel that I can convey the right-wing economical critique in a satisfying manner and I have yet to fully grasp the aspects of Marxism beyond its practical implications, orthodox as well as non-orthodox. Additionally, I am confident that I can make Illegalist-tan seem at the very least a little bit sensible.

Though, I do have to say, Conservative-tan would be hated by most other of the -tan girls. Mainly b/c of the Fanaticall Christianity. If this got picked up I could also write Nazi-tan stuff. But everything would be based on how my project works out.

[ShotgunNinja]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JBAGy8ifmsVPuf6Q3oZLOgYky52x5CJllKWvhgRaUac/edit

[imperial.standard]

Hmmm I wonder if they are also wearing their clothes accordingly to their "party" colors? EG; Socialist wears pink, Marxist red, Facists blue/black, etc...

And I did not see Liberation Theology represented - I am offended... XD

[Zarich]

Hmmm I wonder if they are also wearing their clothes accordingly to their "party" colors? EG; Socialist wears pink, Marxist red, Facists blue/black, etc...

I would guess so but not like for the whole outfit, maybe just like some parts, some places.

[kosherbacon]

Political pantsu.

[Zarich]

Political pantsu.

One of the chars then would def be going Nopan and the Conservative girl would then be conservative in underwear choice, Bloomers (not the sports king, the weird puffy/frilly kind, leads to some nice name-calling xp)

[MDV]

If I'd write my own VN? I guess it's time to recycle this post on the KS boards:

It takes place in a small city in a country in northern/western continental Europe. The main character is a in his late teens, and spent most of his adolescence being a no-lifer and spending his time on videogames and the internet. He's an adopted only-child with two married fathers. Although he enjoys his loner-existance, he feels like he's missing out on too much and decides to get a life and expand his circle of friends. In this proces, he'll meet the heroines of the game.

The first one is a cute meganekko type of girl the protagonist goes to school with. She doesn't appear to have any real friends, just like him, and that's exactly why he goes after her. She plays a musical instrument, and is very serious about it. She's the type of girl who always goes straight home after school. The two fall in love develop a relationship and become intimate, but the guy doesn't get to know her at that well, just the surface of her personality. The girl lives with her mother and hates her father because he 'did something horrible and abandoned her and her mother at a young age'. Her mother is the type of parent who thinks of their child as a prodigy and is hellbent on making a succesfull artist of her daughter, she doesn't like the fact that her daughter is seeing a boy and despised men in general. As the story progresses, the girl will be faced with the tough choice of pleasing her mother (quite a bad and abusive parent, but the girl feels like she owes everything she has to her mother) or her boyfriend. As things get positively dramatic, it is revealed that the girls biological father is actually one of the main characters adoptive fathers. On top of that, the father never did something horrible, and the mother just divorced him after some fights and lied in court to keep the father from seeing her child again. Is the love between the girl and the main character strong enough to survive this family drama? It depends on the choices you make in the game.

I don't have much of an idea what the second girl will look like, but she likes rock 'n roll and is politically active. The main character meets her at a rock concert. The two start to hang out together. The girl introduces him to her friends, who are all part of the same nationalist movement. At first he's sceptical of the group and their ideas, and only hangs out with them because of the girl and his desire to meet new people, but as time goes by, he 'awakens' and becomes a radical himself. This puts him into confilcts with his parents, his school and pretty much everyone out of the movement.

I wasn't sure about the third character, and I'm still not.

[imperial.standard]

Alright, here's an idea I had which I thought was kinda amusing:

Ideas for a title: Love-ism, Hearts & Minds, Politicaru Shoujo

OK how about if I donate one character to this idea of yours?

Monarchist-tan

An "much, much older than they look" kind of lady, extremely refined and well mannered. Can be stand-offish at times and very protective to her ideas of good natural order and ideal governance, but all in all a very well-meaning person. She looked richer than she actually is but after all that happened in the past, she is left only with a fraction of wealth she used to have but she pretty much hides the fact well. May occasionally wear crown shaped jewelry or brooches to denote who she actually is but at times she will go low profile accordingly. Hates Marxist-tan with passion, which she considers someone who isn't right in the head.